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Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007, 08:28 am I know that life cannot be fair.

As many of you know, Lance Hahn of Cringer and J-Church fame died yesterday. He was extremely sick for a long long time, but it still comes as a sad shock to have a friend and peer die so young. I loved Lance's music from the time I was in high school. He was talking about situationalism and listening to John Cage before I knew what any of that stuff even was. He embodied what was great about punk rock - curiosity, openness and no time for the bullshit. Lance and I were never close, but we stayed in touch over the years. The last time I saw him was two years ago. He stayed at my house in Brooklyn and was terribly sick with what he thought was a cold. Turns out, his kidneys were in serious trouble. He struggled on despite no health insurance and little money for the next couple of years but finally succumbed this weekend. Lance was one of the world's truly good guys. He'll be missed.  If you have a Lance story you want to share, or remember driving around your small town listening to his band on the radio, or saw J Church or Cringer in some tiny club or huge hall in one of the hundreds of cities and scores of countries they played in, put the story in the comments.
Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 02:14 pm (UTC)
commandercranky

I never knew Lance very well, but I met him once about 10 years ago. I was on tour as a roadie for an emo band in the fall of 1998, and Lance set up our shows in SF and Oakland. The first morning we were there he took us to breakfast at some place in the Mission where the food was cheap and that brand of healthy messy vegetarian. He talked excitedly with his mouth full of food, eating like it was a race. And all that excitement was directed at us, getting to know new people. I was so impressed that this famous punk, this guy whose music I'd listened to for years, took so much time to talk with four smalltime kids from the midwest. He showed us around the Mission afterwards, and when he left to go to work in the afternoon we felt like we had a new friend looking out for us. I never met Lance again, though I saw J Church play at a couple big venues once in a while. He always seemed a little haggard but resolute - like he didn't know any other way. Every once in a while, I hear that song in my head, the one he sang about the hard working couple living in the shitty little apartment, scrimping money but enjoying life: "there were times I would hear them cry themselves to sleep, but other times there was crazy laughter and that's the thought that I'll keep." Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
orchid_and_wasp

<3 that's the lyric I've had in my head all morning, too. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC)
orchid_and_wasp

My first band used to cover Cringer songs in my parents' garage. sometimes i wanna go back, sometime to the beginning sometimes i wouldn't change a thing Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 03:55 pm (UTC)
biblionerd_girl

I have all kinds of memories associated with J Church and Cringer but absurdly right now I just have flashes of old friends wearing ratty Cringer shirts in high school. And sadly, of Harold wearing his Tilt shirt. Memories leading to memories... and lives cut short. So sad. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

This made me think of Harold as well. I'm pretty bummed about the whole thing. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

I can’t say for sure that Cringer was ever on when we used to drive around in spitmeat’s parents minivan driving from dennys to dennys, being young and stupid with our lives ahead of us, but I bet they were. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
spitemeat

They were, indeed. To add to the story collection from the oblique periphery, I remember the first time I ever visited San Francisco and caught up with several people I hadn't seen in years (including atthesametime. As we walked from Haight to the Mission for dinner, I was about to jaywalk when atthesametime yanked me back onto the curb and pointed at the train that I was about to let smear me on the pavement. Then he instructed me to look at the sign over the front of the train, which in bright white letters proclaimed "J CHURCH." A brief punk rock epiphany ensued. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
commandercranky

Such a nice photo too. Where is it from? Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 05:08 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

Lance's myspace page. I really wanted to find a good one of his singing, but everything I found was really old and really bad. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 05:37 pm (UTC)
icki

Before Lance moved to Austin he gave me a giant box of true crime books. In the bottom of it was an 11x14 print of him & Gardner in Cringer. It was an awesome picture of a very young Lance. I got to see Lance about this time last year, when I was on tour in Austin. It was amazing how, if you didn't know he was sick, you'd never know. He was still so positive and laughing a lot and, well, just being Lance. It was great to see him, as always. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
haolegirl

WTH? Are you serious??? He was a classmate of mine at Kamehameha Schools in Hawai'i. I didn't know he died. He was one of the coolest people EVER. This is a shock to me. I was just reading the Friends List of gymrats and saw his picture and name. I hope this isn't true. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:20 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

um, i am sorry to say it is true. lance died yesterday from complications related to dialysis treatment. he has been very sick for a number of years. sorry to be the bringer of bad news through a random connection. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
haolegirl

I'm just so shocked. I'm in shock and of all places I found it at here. Anyway while I'm super sad about his passing... at least I found out even though it's through you??? I probably would have found out eventually but I'm glad I did even though I am in total shock Thanks for posting about him though because now I know though I am super super sad. He was one of the nicest people ever. He didn't even tell us he was sick. Very sad. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 08:00 pm (UTC)
uberconfused

My only connection to J Church is through TO/Jade Tree, but it sounds like Lance was one hell of a guy and my condolences to everybody who knew him or his music. Mon, Oct. 22nd, 2007 11:39 pm (UTC)
jactitation

Funny, I was listening to this song when I read your post. I'd known Lance from around, but only got to really know him when he was my upstairs neighbor for a year. Out of the eight of us in our two apartments, I was the only one not involved with Epicenter but Lance never made me feel like I wasn't part of the club, or lazy, or weird. He wore his heart on his sleeve when he fell in love, would get gleefully excited discussing the Spanish Civil War, and then turn around and talk punk trivia with some kid who came up to him at the bar as if they'd known each other for years. And then turn around and ask me something about some small detail of my life that would astonish me that he knew. We were never best buddies and I haven't seen him since he moved to Austin, but I've been following his health struggles on his myspace. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there won't be more Lance. Thanks for this post/space. Tue, Oct. 23rd, 2007 03:51 pm (UTC)
haolegirl

That is how he was in high school too. We were in some honors classes together and he would get excited over literature and go on and on. He was the only Hawaiian at our school with a mohawk. That is true. He rarely if ever even told people he was Hawaiian so in a way he epitomized how we should be... in following their dreams but even in high school he was super cool even when some people were uncool to him. He was rare in that while he looked different in our high school he was different in that he gave a damn. I'm on his Myspace too and I didn't know he was gravely ill. His last entry was "Sore." That was very typical of him in that he didn't dwell on serious issues though I wish he told me and I just wish he didn't pass on. So far I've tried to notify his former classmates from the Kamehameha Schools. Now they know. I just didn't want him to be forgotten even though I know he is looking at me saying... why bother? LOL He will be missed by me. Greatly. Anyway I will really miss him. Very few things devastate me but his untimely death surely does. Tue, Oct. 23rd, 2007 04:23 pm (UTC)
gordonzola

We talked for hours one night about indigenous resistence to US Military bases and weapons testing. Even though I felt pretty up on what people had done in the '80s, I didn't know any of that. He told me all about swimming protests and people mysteriously disappearing. He loved Hawaii, even if he moved away as a teenager. Tue, Oct. 23rd, 2007 05:14 pm (UTC)
villagecharm

In 1994, J Church played over Memorial Day weekend at Studio 158 in North Windham. We had been listening to J Church and Cringer for years and we were excited to finally see them. On the day of the show, Dave Lawrence's car broke down, which was a major crisis because he was the only one of us who had a car. We somehow convinced my dad to rent a car as long as we paid for it, and he let us take it to the show. It was a 1986 Plymouth Reliant K, I think, a truly shitty vehicle. The only time I've ever rented a car to see a show. It was a great show, obviously. J Church has been a huge presence in my life for many years and I've always treasured that memory. I only met Lance once and exchanged e-mails and letters a few times over the years, so I can only imagine how bad this feels for people who knew him well. Tue, Oct. 23rd, 2007 05:18 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

You rented a car! Wow, that's awesome. Tue, Oct. 23rd, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
pastels_badge

My Lance story is this: I just met him about a month ago. He worked at the same video store as my boyfriend. One day Brian and I went into the back area where Lance worked and we started talking. He charmed the pants off me immediately and just generally struck me as a super interesting person. Soon after that he got sick. It's strange. On the one hand it's weird to have met someone and liked them just before they passed away. But on the other hand, it seems pretty special that I got to have a nice little moment with a great person while I still had the chance. Wed, Oct. 24th, 2007 02:17 am (UTC)
gordonzola

Lance Hahn: The Friendliest Man in Punk. Wed, Oct. 24th, 2007 06:00 pm (UTC)
jinxremoving

Lance and J Church have been such an inspiration to me. Even though I'm far away, and only met Lance once, I feel devastated, so my heart goes out to those of you who were close to him. The one time I saw J Church live, it was December 2004. I flew from Edinburgh to Munich for a weekend just so I could catch them before they left Europe. It was worth the expense. And it was more than 'just' a gig to me: I'd recently left an abusive relationship that had given me a whole load of baggage, plus I'd been rushed into hospital unexpectedly and was now recuperating from surgery. Going to Munich by myself, where I didn't know anyone, was a really big deal given that I'd missed out on adventures for so long. I had such an amazing time seeing J Church and being welcomed by the local punks, who gave me crashspace & food & drink. It felt like a turning point, and it had such a positive impact on my life. Listening to Lance's voice always brings back those feelings of freedom that I was newly able to experience. Thank you, thank you, thank you, and I'm so sorry that you're gone. Wed, Oct. 24th, 2007 06:32 pm (UTC)
atthesametime

thank you for sharing this. |